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Runners of the Corn
Runners of the Corn
The Trail Tales: Unraveling Ultrarunning with Michele Schueler
The Trail Tales: Unraveling Ultrarunning with Michele Schueler
Join us for a lively conversation with the incredible Michele Schueler as she and ROC discuss the joys of nighttime ultra running, sharing laughter and valuable tips for runners at every level.
Fueling your body is crucial, and Michele shares her experience with physical therapy and injury recovery while our conversation expands to include everything from the origins of the Yetis to memorable races and overcoming challenges. We also dive into the importance of having a great support system during ultra-marathons and the value of self-care and self-expression in running.
Finally, listen as Michele reflects on how ultra running has shaped her perspective on life and offers advice for others starting out on their running journey. So grab a drink, settle in, and join us for this entertaining and insightful episode with Michele, Jen, and Grace.
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Welcome to Runners of the Corp Podcast.
Speaker 2:A podcast about all things running in the Midwest. It's just a hike in the woods, that's an adventure. Oh hi, recording. Oh hi, i can hear you. Oh hi, with your host, jen Heller, andrea and Ormathias, here we go, so we're on the podcast.
Speaker 3:Welcome to the podcast, and we're just waiting very patiently for our lost guest.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we, uh, we're here in our dust.
Speaker 3:It's missing. She's wandering downtown talking to everybody she can find.
Speaker 2:We, uh, we. She had to go back to Crystal Cork to get their wine, and now we don't know where she is.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but it's a wine with a yeti on it. Oh, there she is. Oh, she's just outside the window. She's just outside the window to make sure of us.
Speaker 2:Hey, we're recording right now. Yeah, hi, hi, michelle, yep, go ahead and take a selfie. We found our guest.
Speaker 4:She's back, she has shown up. She showed up with a bottle of wine that she got from Crystal Cork that has a yeti on it And a little uh pine tree on the top On the cork, on the cork, yeah.
Speaker 2:So she had to finagle with Crystal.
Speaker 4:Cork, because Grace does not have a wine opener thingy. What do you call that? A corkscrew?
Speaker 2:Yep, so if anyone wants to give Grace anything, she could use a corkscrew.
Speaker 3:Well, in my defense, it's the first time I've been asked for one.
Speaker 2:Well, however, i think it'd be funny if somebody brought you a really funny interesting corkscrew I brought one that's funny and interesting.
Speaker 4:You did. However, the story to it is what did you say? it's like get by the mic, she let She. Let me borrow this one from the Crystal Cork, but we have to return it by 10 pm. So it's the lending library of corkscrews. Did you have to like leave a shoe, or like a license, or My driver's license? Oh, no, did you know it's at Stonebridge? Yes, oh.
Speaker 3:Oh, pressure's on Everything. I return it to my other local downtown business I tossed so many things off to Grace, like our checks.
Speaker 4:this morning at breakfast They gave me the whole stack of checks and said you can disperse these to who they belong to. Mine was right on top and I handed the other six to Grace. Yeah, our breakfast bills.
Speaker 2:Here you guys go, figure it out, bye.
Speaker 3:Mine was not right on top, so I figured it out.
Speaker 4:Darn, and that was my intention. You just grab one from the top and pass them around.
Speaker 2:All right, I'm going to fix something for a second, damn it, i wasn't hitting record.
Speaker 4:I might tap that.
Speaker 2:Okay, so seriously, welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 4:I'm having issues Welcome back, welcome back. First off, we just have to say thank you to Bevy for the drinks, because drinks have been had. If you haven't figured that out, at Crystal Cork, sinko, sinko, drinks from Bevy, hear it. Thank you, bevy. Wait, oh, hold on. Here it is.
Speaker 2:Oh, that was so lame, That was really really lame.
Speaker 3:It was cute, we're drinking a Portlandia 2019, columbia Valley Cab Big believer.
Speaker 4:There's a Yeti on the front of it. We're drinking Yeti wine, that's all I know. Boom, and I don't drink wine because it doesn't do well with me, but I'm like it would be really wrong, like bad luck. That's enough. Okay, that's yours. Can you hear that? Oh, my God, this podcast. I apologize right now. I want very little. There we go, yeah.
Speaker 3:I like wine Thank you.
Speaker 4:Somebody has a cheers, Somebody has a three and a half hour run tomorrow to do in the heat And they ain't going to go well. Thanks, Bevy Cheers. We're going to blame Bevy. I'll be like God damn it tomorrow Dude cheers wine.
Speaker 3:Is that even like acceptable? I don't know.
Speaker 4:Yep, you can cheers anything. You can cheers chocolate milk if you want to. Yeah, there's no rules. We're adults, we can do whatever we want. That's what's so fun about being an adult You can have mimosos any time of the day. Yes, yeah.
Speaker 3:I almost had one At Frost going first.
Speaker 4:Yes, All right. So if you haven't figured out who this other voice is, we have Michelle Shuler as our guest. Hello, and the other voice is. the co-host tonight is Grace Johnson.
Speaker 3:Yay, do you almost screw that one up. I have to consciously not be like Grace Crow, that's all right. I still do the same thing.
Speaker 4:Freudian slip, or just you know habit, okay, she just So yeah thanks, grace, for helping out Habit, okay Still using both names.
Speaker 3:You just caught on to that.
Speaker 2:You just caught on to that. Poor Jess like yeah, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Hey, hey, hey.
Speaker 4:If I had a Johnson, I'd carry it around with me all the time.
Speaker 2:Oh shit. So we're just going to mark this episode explicit. It is anyway, I've already been tagged, Somebody told me and I think like out of the third or fourth episode, Apple marked me as explicit.
Speaker 4:I think it was Lawrence like, look, look, look, look.
Speaker 2:You marked explicit by Apple. I'm like, oh great, But yeah, so thank you for filling in Grace.
Speaker 4:And thank you for joining us. Michelle, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:The other two, you know, had lives, children, you know excuses excuses. So anyway, all right, we have so many questions and so much stuff to talk about.
Speaker 2:I should be talking about updates since the last one, but I didn't write them down.
Speaker 3:I usually do. I don't even know what there was from the last one.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's been such a long, like a long stretch that I don't know. So, so sorry, i feel like. Has there been big races since the store's five year anniversary? I don't think so. I don't. I think it's been kind of quiet, yeah, so nothing's been happening. We've got a big races coming, like lots of them are getting ready to come up. You got Kettle coming up, you got shoots coming up, you've got Western coming up right. I don't know All of them. Where's the trusty calendar? It's right here. Crimey River, that's in.
Speaker 4:July. Can't wait. Yeah, we've got lots of fun stuff coming up, so our next guest will be Dan Stumpenfors, and then it looks like Chris Rumphoff will be coming up the next. I think. Two great guys, yeah, oh yes. They're both going to be great episodes for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so all right. So we think Bovee, and we also have to thank somebody for some drinks that they did a couple weeks back.
Speaker 3:I don't know.
Speaker 4:Wait, Michelle had something to say about Bovee We were going to talk about that, but I'm just going to say thank you for the drinks. And I got to make sure I thank somebody I don't know who you are because you marked yourself as somebody And I tried to like go on the back end and like look at their email address and I still couldn't figure out who you were. So I just want to say thank you for the drinks. That was really great of you. I don't know who you are, so cheers, all right. So when I said Hey, bovee bought a strings, she's like Oh, bovee, do you know that? I gave Bovee his trail name and then started to explain it to me.
Speaker 4:I'm like no, no and stop, because I want to hear this on the podcast because I never heard what it like.
Speaker 4:I've heard people say well that's a Bovee or there's a Bovee, yeah, that's a Bovee. I just thought that Bovee did stupid shit, and so that's why they say that. So, like, bovee must have done a bunch of stuff back in the day. And they're like, well, there's a Bovee because Bovee did stupid shit, but no, there's more to it, and so I want to hear what, what, where, where did that's a Bovee or a Bovee came from? So Bovee was one of the OG trail names When the Yetis first started. One of the things I thought that was really cool from other groups were just nicknames. What was the underground group? Gosh, the, the Hash House Harriers.
Speaker 3:So the.
Speaker 4:Hash House Harriers. they're international and they're like this underground secret group. And are they a running group? They are, and it's selective, so to get invited to them is kind of cool. Are they still around? The Quad Cities has a group. I have not joined, but they did let me in on their Facebook page.
Speaker 4:So, they have names for each other, so that then the Coyotes also had trail names for each other. So I was like we got to have trail names. So I was on a Grand Canyon trip and grabbed a mixed sixer from the store and looked down at this can? I'm reading the label and it said enjoy your Bovee. And I was like you know what He always brings alcohol. He's got spotted cow when we're in Illinois, cause you know you can only get that in Wisconsin. So I'm like Bovee Bevoroth. He's Bovee, and the more I learned about Bovee is, it means so many things that it means nothing all at once. So a Bovee is everything and nothing all at the same time.
Speaker 3:Now he makes his own beer.
Speaker 4:He does. How cool is that? So what do they mean when that's a Bovee? That's everything and nothing all at once, anything like that rainstorm. It whipped in out of nowhere. What a Bovee. Okay, i mean, everything's a Bovee and nothing's a Bovee. And what she means by that is we get to the store We're going to go from here, the Stonebridge, to Crystal Court, and it just downpours out of nowhere. We've been in a drought and then it decides to rain. What?
Speaker 3:a Bovee. I didn't have, what a Bovee. I did have umbrellas for you guys.
Speaker 4:Thank you, Grace. We made Grace rock in the rain.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I walked in the rain, See, she just.
Speaker 4:Grace covers everything. She's got us all the time. She's like I'll handle you pampered princesses, bitches, asses, here you go. Yeah, but one of them was broken, so mine.
Speaker 3:What a Bovee. I don't even know if I use that correctly.
Speaker 4:I got the Bovee. You can't use it wrong.
Speaker 3:It's all a Bovee.
Speaker 2:Can you do?
Speaker 4:the broken. My Bovee's not broken, i don't know. Some days me Well. We all are All right. So thanks Bevy, thank you, have a great day. I just read the wine bottle. It says have a great day. That's awesome. Sorry, i just they looked at me like what I'm like.
Speaker 2:I just looked down and read the bottle.
Speaker 4:All right, don't don't squash it, you'll make wine, oh my God. All right, so let's get into, like the meat and potatoes of this. Share how you got into the altar running and drink the ultra Kool-Aid. How did this shit start? Um, i was running, got into triathlon. The triathlons got longer and longer. I have reynods reynods phenomenon. So as the distances get longer, the water gets colder. You're in open water and my joints couldn't handle that, basically. So somewhere I stumbled along trail running and then found out about longer and longer distances and I could do that, so it wasn't the cold water that affected me. So, yeah, interesting. How about the winter? Right?
Speaker 4:Oh my God winter suck.
Speaker 2:Why do I still live in Illinois? I'm not sure.
Speaker 4:All right, but I mean you, so you're, so you're just like okay, I'm, I'm into triathlons, I'll just switch over to ultra running. Yeah, Um, it was.
Speaker 2:I got really lazy, I guess, because I would call it getting lazy to get switched over to ultra running.
Speaker 4:Triathlon is a multi-discipline sport, so I was swimming three mornings a week in the gym, the other two mornings a week running, biking, you know, in the evenings, and then with ultra distance running, all I had to do was run and I got really lazy and didn't do the other stuff. I feel like four or five I'm, just I don't know what I'm gonna do. Running much, yeah, um, so that doesn't make me a great ultra runner, um, but I've had a lot of fun ultra running.
Speaker 2:So all right.
Speaker 4:So, when training for a race, what does a typical training week look for you, like, how do you balance? Well, let's just start with that. How does a typical training week look like? you say you've done some big races, which we'll talk about. How do you change for those? Well, i haven't done anything big in the past year and my life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you have.
Speaker 4:But my life has changed a lot in the past year. So before I used to work a job like a Monday through Friday that was, you know, eight to five or whatever And it was a lot easier to get out after work and go for run or before work and go for run. So now I met a job where I'm like three 12s and that's tougher. But the time to train is after a long day at work, when you're tired. I've always felt that way. Um, i got my best long runs when I worked during the week. It would be a Friday night seven PM. Keith Don and I would, you know let's hit the trails for five hours And you know we're just exhausted after a work week. So the best time for me to train is after my third 12 in a row to go out and get some miles because I am really tired.
Speaker 3:I like it. I do too.
Speaker 4:Because I mean, in an altar on it run, you're really tired and you got to push. So you're already your body's already tired and taxed out, so you're like let's just push it And I mean that's perfect training. I feel like yeah, really good training.
Speaker 3:That's when most people would be like Nope, I'm not doing it. I'm too tired. I'm too tired.
Speaker 4:And I have been in love with nighttime training.
Speaker 4:I noticed lately you've been doing some night miles. Yeah, so I don't know, it's my jam, out by myself listening to loud music and pretty much didn't want to say it. I didn't want to say it, but yeah, yes, explicit lyrics and whatever, getting my run on and de-stressing I like. I love night running. I'm going to be pacing somebody in August and they do not like night miles and they don't know me that well. So we're we're working on getting to know each other a little bit better. And I said, fun fact, the pacer loves nightmills. You're shitting me? Nope, i like them. Love them, just like my jam. I love it. I do not understand why I come to life at night, not in my own race, not for me, but for other people. Well, you don't see shooting stars during the day, duh, but for some reason I can come to life for my, for others, and be like you ready to do this shit Come?
Speaker 4:on And they're like, oh my God, i'm like, yeah, you got the night pacer, let's do this.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:It makes a great pacer when you you wake up when your runner wants to go to sleep or not. They're like oh my God, a lot of energy, Turn it down.
Speaker 3:I'm going to opposite. Yeah, i don't like nights.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 3:I like to sleep. It's a right. It's notorious for that. That's okay, i mean, but everyone's unique.
Speaker 4:And that's why it's nice to have like, like, hey, what's your strengths, what's your weaknesses? All right, well, i'm going to use you for this or that And you're going to, i'm going to pull you for this, you know. That's why it's good to know your paces too. And, jen, you and I and Donna ran together at butt Yes, and that was at night, yeah, and loved it until I didn't. Yeah, well, i got, i got to leave, so you were staying longer. I felt so bad because I was like yeah, I'm about done.
Speaker 2:You guys enjoy the next six hours.
Speaker 4:I think I did one more loop and then I did loops from the driver seat of my car with the heater on. So yeah, yeah, but I had fun with you guys because we were just chit chat away, just bleh bleh bleh bleh, bleh, bleh, bleh, bleh, bleh, bleh.
Speaker 4:And then you're like, we're like, oh, i had to push the last little bit because I was really nervous, because I had a number I wanted to get. Okay, i'm so. Do you know, my proudest moment during that run Donna knows she's gotten to know me very, we've got to know one another and I had to stop and pee and when I came up on you guys and she goes, i told you she'd catch us before this loop was over.
Speaker 4:I just really turned it on when I have that dangling carrot, i said, hey, should we stop?
Speaker 2:Should we wait for her? No, she'll catch up.
Speaker 4:And you did. I was like she's so silly, she'll be fine, she'll catch up.
Speaker 2:I'm like, oh my God, we're next thing you know, like kind of like a Sesame Street. Hey you guys, there she comes and I'm like Jesus, i love that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you did That was great. Yeah, and it was fun. It was so nice, cause I kind of was like, oh man, this is kind of sucking out here in the dark by myself right now, I don't know. And then I was like, can I?
Speaker 2:you care if I stay with you guys. They're like, oh yeah, it's fine, yeah, and then we just got talking and I don't know what, and then, oh about done. They're like shut up, cause you know, somebody did the six hour, somebody did the 12.
Speaker 4:And I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 3:I was in Hawaii. Oh asshole, oh man, i'm had a mess, oops.
Speaker 4:I had to work that day.
Speaker 2:Oh no, the day before.
Speaker 4:Last time I had to work the day and then go run it, you were nicer to me. This year She was Thank you. Thank you, boss. Yeah, if you're not from around here and you don't know, grace is my boss, all right. So, but how do you balance running with other life commitments though? So, like you, know, blow off other life commitments Not a girl.
Speaker 4:I don't know My house, my house, i'm the only one that lives there. You know my dog and I, and he doesn't care if it's messy And truly I don't sit, so it's not really messy. I am not very good at sitting Things. I'm very good at pacing worrying overthinking, overthinking, not sleeping not oh yeah, yeah, all those things.
Speaker 4:So it'll get done when it gets done. That's how I feel I gotta get my runs in. They're like my number one priority for me. That's how I personally am, and it's really nice. I'm blessed with a spouse who's like, yeah, you should go run. Yeah, no, it's cause I'm a bitch and I had to run that crazy off. Yeah, he just knows that I'm like, and so he's like go, go, and then I'm like okay.
Speaker 2:All right, I'm good. So what do you wanna do today?
Speaker 4:So I mean he gets it, so that's good, awesome, Yeah, all right. So ultra running requires some mental toughness and endurance. How do you stay motivated during the long run races? I mean, when I did my 100 mile, the Hennepin 100, my brother had just been in Afghanistan not long before that. So I remember coming into the 50 mile aid station and just feeling like bad and thinking, well, i'm not in Afghanistan.
Speaker 4:He asked me to mail him a shower curtain. Like, oh right, so I can do this. I need to suck this up, you know it. So that was a big one for me at that time. Getting through that was just knowing everything that he went through and and You know those that serve that were with him. Mm-hmm, you know they wanted a shower curtain. Are you kidding me, like So? anyway, that's what really kept me motivated. Your, your issue seems so small then. Yeah, pretty much Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah if, yeah, if they're over there, i can do this. So nice comforts of home, yeah. So, side note, grace, you had some girls in here. What was it for Girls on the?
Speaker 3:oh, girls on the go, yeah, through the Sterling YMCA.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and they're looking to get motivated to train for a 5k, whatever and their fifth through eighth graders.
Speaker 4:Oh it's, which is really cool. Could I give a shout out? I want to give a shout out to Lily s. Hi. Lily, oh Sweet. So I mean, and I thought that was really cool and what's your motivation? But you know, this question made me think not as, not as motivating as Afghanistan or something. But I have a niece who's getting into running and is looking at like joining the track, whatever, and I'm like, oh, when my family remembers might run.
Speaker 2:Oh please, god please.
Speaker 4:But she Was doing something for school, was running and didn't want to keep going. And she said if my auntie can run a hundred miles, i can keep running this mile. And I was like what's perfect like you inspire me, and I'm like, oh my gosh, you never know what child, what young girl, what, who were inspiring. And and then what is there gonna be their, their motivation to keep going? That's for sure.
Speaker 4:You know we think about other people like well, if they can go through this, i suppose I can keep trucking through this Hell right now, but that's big. I mean to think about your brother like that. Yeah, i love it. Yeah, i think that's cool. The girls on the run program Oh, yeah, that was so cool.
Speaker 3:Today was their first run. I don't know how far they were going, but not Maybe a mile or so, and so we talked about clothing and just gear and skin and the things that would keep people from running the Discomforts of a blister, and stuff like that, so it was fun.
Speaker 4:I felt like a complete asshole. When I came in, said hi to them and I'm in there like she's a cow forage. You want to? and I said the dumbest thing you're not supposed to say, just just.
Speaker 3:Just four miles and I was like Jen, we don't use that I know that here. But but they were really cute because they were just Dumbfounded by what you do so well.
Speaker 4:I didn't want to tell them the distance, i didn't want to tell them what I do or anything. I didn't want to share that. But Because they're, they're changing for a 5k, you don't want to intimidate or like well, you know what I mean. Like sound like No one gives shit about that. You want to motivate them. Yeah, yeah, you know. And and I thought, oh crap, you know. And so I said but she thankfully saved it with well, normally She would be training more miles. So in her mind right now is just just for her.
Speaker 4:Because normally it's bigger miles, because she's training for something bigger, yeah, so grace again saved me. Everybody's different, y'all. Everybody's different. Yeah, and you know, and I did, and I, but I saved it with hey. I once upon a time was training for my first 5k and I remember it was a big deal and I read my first mile and my first three Miles. It was huge. So it was huge. I were all cotton.
Speaker 2:Cotton socks cat and share what we talked about.
Speaker 1:I.
Speaker 4:Were. I wore a brand that I will not say the brand that it was shoes, but had the swishy little mark on it Oh, okay, yeah, and it would. They were too small for me and I had shin pain, my toes hurt, i had blisters all over. I was like man, my feet hurt really bad and then I went to Grace wasn't here then when I was doing this because this was, you know, 10 years ago, over 10 years ago, and I went to a running store and got fitted for running shoes and I was like whoa, now my feet got, they feel much better and I got actual big girl running shoes. Highly recommend. You always go to running store and get fitted. You go online, you're gonna get you. You're getting scared. So I'm just saying don't do that.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 4:That I went on a tangent.
Speaker 2:That's okay.
Speaker 4:Yeah, i do that. All right, it's the alcohol. All right, so anyway, but Have you ever experienced any major setbacks or injuries, and then how did you overcome them? Oh Gosh, setbacks, injuries, yes, what's that sound. Okay, here we go ready. Oh no, don't pour more, okay, oh.
Speaker 4:Okay so I was going to run antelope Canyon 2015, i think 2016 maybe and Started having glute pain. So I your ass hurt, right? Yes, yes, i Went to physical therapy and saw Jeff Wright, who is absolutely amazing, but I went too late. Wait, jeff writes a physical therapist, jeff, right isn't physical.
Speaker 3:There's his doctor, he's a doctor of physical therapy. He had the entire department Yeah son of a bitch.
Speaker 4:Why isn't he been on the podcast? Yeah, yep, okay. So I still do the exercises that He went through with me, but I wasn't, like I said. I went too late, so I ended up showing up and going out there. Didn't run, but I helped them with whatever they needed marking. I think I marked six miles of the course, picked up six or ten miles of flags, helped with parking. So physical injury is Has been a big setback for me at times. You know, when you're training you overdo it. I've never had a coach, you know, doing things on my own, going too hard sometimes. I guess this has been it and then Admitting that I have an injury is a big one, you know oh, that sounds like every other person that walks in here.
Speaker 4:Yeah, i've had this injury for three months. I've been ignoring it, but I've erasing three weeks. Can you get me better? It's just a scratch your bones sticking out. It'll be fine to be vented. So yeah, definitely, shout out. Shout out to.
Speaker 3:Jeff right.
Speaker 4:Reach out to him if you know between he and Lauren.
Speaker 3:Yeah where's he located at. He's in Sterling, at CGH physical therapy catch it.
Speaker 4:All right you should just like leave CGH and like join Lauren and they could just have their own little fight, like that would be golden. I'm just saying That's an idea, all right, injuries are terrible. What did you do during that time To keep yourself like, oh my gosh, exercises, exercises. If he said, do it three times a day, i tried to do it four times a day.
Speaker 2:Oh gosh.
Speaker 4:And then also, you know you've got that I've been running a lot and want to eat everything in sight. Trying to not eat everything in sight, Mmm, you know, because you're backing off in the mileage trying to go.
Speaker 1:I'm not running, i can't eat everything, so yeah, That's kind of tough, that's really hard.
Speaker 4:Like I took two months off after my hundred, did not eat like that. Yes, your body's still like feed me. Yeah, and I noticed it. I was like, oh Well, I'll get it in the next training cycle.
Speaker 3:Yep, the first time I met Josh Sun from the quad city group he It was. There was a fan of it, jeff Josh.
Speaker 4:Josh, josh, son, oh Josh son.
Speaker 2:I thought you met Josh's son like no son, josh. Joshua Joshua son, okay, yes.
Speaker 3:They were doing a panel after a henna pin or prior to a henna pin or something like that, and he was talking about how he trained for his hundred and he got fitted for his tux for his wedding and then he finished The hundred in his wedding was like, however, many weeks after and he talked about how his tux did not fit. So that was his little tip of not getting not doing a hundred training while you're prepping for a wedding, because then your tux won't fit. Related to the food Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 4:That's funny Yes you know what? though. That's great getting a guy's perspective, because usually when it comes to weight issues, this and that, were it's women talking. So that's really cool. Thank you, josh, for that.
Speaker 3:You didn't even know you were that it's stuck in my memory, Yeah Well you were helping us out with this, appreciate it.
Speaker 4:He's a great guy. He is a great guy. He's funny. Yeah, it's funny because the next question is what role does nutrition play in your racing? So I mean, that kind of just leads into it, and you kind of hinted at this when we were having drinks. You're not great at eating, are you? I Just eating in general because I'm such a busy?
Speaker 4:I'm always busy. I mean, are you not good at eating while running? and eating while running, i'm better at really been eating. I Just don't sit much, and especially with being Single now and it's just me. I've got stuff to do. I don't have time to sit down and have a meal, You know it's just a prep for just one person.
Speaker 3:And see, i get that because yeah.
Speaker 4:I mean my husband, like we were just talking, my husband be gone a lot, so I'm used to being alone a lot, and he would be would say what did you eat I forgot? He's like how in the hell does anyone forget to eat? Well, you're a busy body. I'm a special kind of stupid. Yes, and I go, go, go, go, go. And it would be until the light had, like the check engine light which would come on when I'd go to stand up.
Speaker 2:You know I'd be like oh shit, i forgot to eat.
Speaker 4:My body's like, hey, dumbass, I'm out of gas. You know what I mean And I've done that. Still do it sometimes. I've gotten better about it because I know what I'm training and my body needs that important fuel and my muscles need that. because I'm just telling people you don't do that, You're gonna lose your muscles, because your body goes into the muscle stores and starts chewing up the good shit. So that's dumb, don't do that. Speaking to myself. So what I'll do is, basically, I turned the grill on two days ago. I have a tray a smoker grill.
Speaker 4:I did, I shut it off.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:It was, but it's a smoker, so it's on for a little while. I remembered it was on, yeah, so I had the trigger on and threw chicken on there. Some burgers, look it all up Did a couple days worth of food, grill food prepping, so yeah, and just and rice and put it in the fridge, and so then when I'm like I don't have enough time to eat, it's right there, just warm it up. So I'm getting better about it. But also summer, you don't wanna stop, you wanna keep going.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I get in the garden and I'm like, all right, stop, collaborate and listen. I says back with him brand new dishes, go eat your food. Yeah, so like. But you and I kind of have the same kind of busy brain. So I'm just curious of like, when I'm out running I get distracted.
Speaker 4:Obviously out there I forget to eat. I'm pretty good about eating while I'm running. I'm not great but I will take like trail mix. I have a favorite kind of trail mix and I put it in little snack baggies up front in my pack. What's your favorite things to eat out there? I have this cranberry peanut butter cup trail mix, which isn't great when it's warm out cause it melts. But bananas, cuties noon, i'll put noon in there. Tailwind if I'm going for a long run, if it's aid station.
Speaker 4:Food things that I love are like turkey and cheddar sandwiches, chips and soda. Let me tell you, when I was a triathlete I got myself weaned off of the Coke. No more Coke for this girl, no chips, no McDonald's. And I want to give a shout out to Rich Skitcheye He was a potato chip guy, okay, and I started running the pot races And pottawatomie, pottawatomie, and he's bringing the chips. So that was like very early on. I did the 30 miler, okay, and I was like oh, chip, there are potato chips here and Coca-Cola Jackpot And I was sucked right back in again to the chips and soda.
Speaker 4:So, shout out to Rich Skitcheye If you're an idiot like me sometimes and you forget to do these things, I highly suggest that pretty much all watches have a timer on there, an option where you can do an alert, and they have food alerts. Pretty much all the watches have a food alert. So for me it was a breaker for me to say put my watch on, It was for my last 100, I had an alert going off every 45 minutes.
Speaker 2:Hey, dumb, that's a great idea.
Speaker 4:It's time to eat And I did great eating only because every 45 minutes an alarm went off to say eat, That's nice. Yeah, and if you just get caught up in it and you know you're gonna get and you know you do it and you're guilty of it and it's really we're learning. It's more important to get you know. Andrew's been drilling this in my head. It's important to get those calories actually in the beginning. More important in fact, especially this first three hours.
Speaker 3:Too hard to catch up.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you're better off having too much in the beginning than not being short.
Speaker 3:Once you've depleted it, you cannot get it back.
Speaker 4:Or it's really, it's gonna be really hard Really really hard. I should do those on days that I'm at work. Set my alarm. Yeah, yeah, right. I don't even get to pee when I'm at work. Darn nurses, just put it in your bra, we don't get to.
Speaker 2:They'll just look at you and like what are you doing? Little booby snack.
Speaker 4:We don't get to pee, we don't get to eat, you know whatever it's fine. But so I set an alarm and that really helped my race quite a bit. And so when I go to do shoots at nine, I'm gonna do the same thing. I'm gonna have an alarm going off for 45 minutes.
Speaker 4:Hey dumb dumb eat, because I just know, hey, know your weakness and fix it, address it, and once you're depleted you're on the trail. It's again, it's hard to catch up, sort of thing. Yeah, very, all right, it'll slow you down before you realize it. So I have so much more questions but you're probably gonna want to pull out your races that you've done because I want to know, like, what's the most memorable or challenging race. But to ask you that, what kind of races have you done? Like, what was your first ultra? Do you know what? do you remember what your first ultra was?
Speaker 4:I think it was Potawatomi. I went down for the it could have been Farmdale, so Farmdale or Potawatomi was down there for a 30-miler. So I did a 10-mile loop and then brought Dawn out with me for the next 10-mile loop And then I quit after that because the person I was with was cold and wanted to go home, and so that was. That had some changes to make there. So you know how you recognize what slows you down and what stops you during races. But yeah, that was really it. That was a big one for me bringing Dawn down and doing that. We had a pause for our picture. I don't know the Yeti series. I've been doing that for a long time. I don't know if that counts as ultras, but I was there before you know the.
Speaker 4:Skunkape.
Speaker 3:Yes, skunkapes, newer, newer, yeah, so I mean it's still a long distance, he and Dawn and I started doing the longer distances together.
Speaker 4:So about that, you and Keith and Dawn started doing stuff together. Yes, many years ago. Yes, about 2013,. I think Before the Yeti trail and altar runners was formed. Yes, oh, my God is today June 1st. Today's June 1st, it's Keith's birthday.
Speaker 4:It's Keith's birthday, oh my gosh, oh my gosh, mind blown. So, oh my gosh, this had to be like 20, oh, I'm gonna cry. It's his birthday And everyone's wishing him happy birthday on Facebook. He left. He doesn't do social media anymore. He left social media, you guys. So he doesn't see it. You gotta text him. So it had to be.
Speaker 3:He's a little messenger.
Speaker 1:He does do messenger.
Speaker 4:It had to be 2013. Dawn and Keith we decided they were gonna come out to my house. I lived a mile off of the Hennepin Canal and we were gonna do night miles for the first time together, and Keith and I were there waiting to go, and Dawn was late. Dawn was late, lover. So we finally ended up hitting the trail, maybe two hours after we were originally supposed to start.
Speaker 4:So we get down there and I remember having one of those spray maces in my hand And I would flip that thing around every time we heard a noise and Keith's like you're gonna spray me. So we're out running and saying there have to be other people who are off like us, like we're scouring these race results online, and there are other people in Dixon and nearby areas. Plus he had already been running at Lowell Park with Todd and Bob and just different people.
Speaker 4:And so we just started hanging out there more and more and running. But that night in particular he was like so let's say, we get a group together, what should we call him? And I had already been doing his Duathalons and his Yeti series, and it was Meadows Monster, which Grace and Jeff are taking over. So I was like, why not just call us Yetis? Because the logo is already out there, it's the Yeti series and the Meadows Monster, so Yeti just kind of is a natural addition.
Speaker 4:So it's of course natural that I would have park plates with Yeti on them because everywhere that we run is in a park or initially it was a fundraiser for parks and that sort of thing. So we were out later than expected because we got started later than expected and we're running back to my house, hit my road and Keith goes does anybody know what time it is? And it was like 12, 10. And he goes it's my birthday.
Speaker 4:So Don and I were like we're just cheering in the street and so it starts right about this time, exactly, exactly. So we made him come around back. I'm like we are cheers-ing. You know how much I love the cheers We cheers about anything But this was very special. And now, looking back all those years later, it was very special. So this is Yeti's birthday, yeah, 2013. So, son of a bitch, there should have been a group run June 1st.
Speaker 3:It's for the 10 years huh, Keith's birthday.
Speaker 4:Does anybody know what time it is? You know how he is It's 12, 10. Oh, it happens to be my birthday. We should FaceTime him. Happy birthday to you and happy birthday to the Yetis.
Speaker 3:Right now.
Speaker 4:We could All right, oh, you know what, i could put the cord on and we could put him on the podcast.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, pause. Your call has been forwarded to an automated voice messaging system. Well, we'll leave him there. Eight one five.
Speaker 3:Can I call you later? Is that what I said?
Speaker 1:Is not available At the tone. please record your message. When you've finished recording, you may hang up or press one for more options.
Speaker 4:Keith, we're on the podcast right now and I see you said can I call you later? But we're recording, we're live and I have Michelle Shuler here and we're reminiscing about the Yetis and how the Yetis were formed and you guys were on a group run or three of you and when you decided to form the Yetis and then on that run that night you said oh, it's my birthday, so happy birthday to you and to the Yetis.
Speaker 2:That's all we wanted to say. Happy birthday to you and to the Yetis. Bye, bye, bye.
Speaker 1:Yay.
Speaker 2:All right, so he didn't answer He might call back before we're done.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 4:All right. Oh, I need my phone back from the questions.
Speaker 2:So that's a really good story I really like that.
Speaker 4:That's such a great story. He's probably like what in Sam Hill is she calling me for? Back to the show. That was good. I like that. Things you don't know all about Keith. I mean really it's you know he had it before, He had the runs organized and do aphelons and yeah, And he did not steal the Yeti name. He had the Yeti name for the series before all that. Yeah, Actually, when you look at the dates, I mean Yeti's pretty.
Speaker 3:it's a generic name. Yeah, it's used all over.
Speaker 4:Well, if he stole it, he saw that you would steal it from the Yeti monster or the Yeti cooler, or I mean, that'd be like somebody saying they stole the name dog. I just don't, even can't remember how to run. Somebody was like you can't steal the name Yeti, It's a name like you know, whatever. But when I was looking at the dates, that was actually before green grass, all right.
Speaker 4:So, all right, moving on. That's good. You got more stuff to tell us about some races though that led you up to. So there's that one. The first, the maiden Yeti voyage, which started the whole camper thing and taking campers Um, that was the North Face event.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, i never went to one of those find the year North Face event?
Speaker 1:Yeah, There used to be a face.
Speaker 4:They don't have them anymore.
Speaker 2:That's why I'm not.
Speaker 4:Um, explain it, Where was it 2016. It was before then. Um, i'm looking through my notes here, bear with me. Um, it had to be 20. 2014, and, of course, i love running big races on my birthday. So it was September 13 of 2014. Um, i did the 50 miler, took my parents, camper, and so Keith Don and I road tripped um up to the North Face and, uh, dan Scott came along as my pacer. Dan does not sit, he doesn't listen, he totally has ADHD. I was trying to ask him to be my pacer and he wasn't listening. And I said listen, it's like I'm asking you to be a bridesmaid. Okay, i need you to focus.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 4:So he was like, yeah, whatever. So, um, Dan came, Todd also came up, So, uh, yeah, they stayed up there with us. It was just so much fun. We also started calling each other peeps after that, um, because Dan kept getting phone calls in the middle of the night and I was really tired and said shut your damn phone off. And he goes it's my peeps calling me. It's Saturday night, So then it, it's my peeps.
Speaker 4:Everything's about the peeps now. So just those weird little things that happen that you give people nicknames for. So yeah that was it. And then he had to run the 10 K the next day and he was so hungover and here's the three of us. He started off like crazy fast and we're like woo, we go to the next aid station. You got this And he was kind of looking not so good.
Speaker 2:The next day station.
Speaker 4:He was green and he comes into the finish limping and we looked at each other and said why didn't we give him S caps? We knew this was going to happen.
Speaker 2:You need a small tab theme for this podcast.
Speaker 3:Right, So yeah while I was looking at you, your eyelashes look fantastic. God, they're fake. Thank you.
Speaker 4:I know you had an appointment today and they look great, so one of the things that's helped me um ultra running and feel good about myself because I look like a boy most times is fake eyelashes and fake eyebrows, so they never go away. I'm a big sweater when I'm running, so everything just washes off and and that's fine. You know, my daughter's like just be natural, just be you. And I'm like this is me, this is natural. I look like a boy out there. Whatever makes us feel good. But you know what? I've been a tomboy forever and I'm just like. It's just what it is.
Speaker 4:Me too, me too, big tomboy, i don't know. It just makes me feel better about myself, yeah, so yeah, nope, all right, i've got questions. That's so funny. My questions are running into the questions that other people ask, but I'm just going to go. I go first. I want to know what. Because I was leading up to this, because I said pull yourself. I wonder what is your most memorable or most challenging race? Oh, most Most challenging. Yeah, go with the most challenging. And then I want to know which one pulled your heartstrings most. Most challenging was Bandera, 50 K.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 4:Oh, and that was like look at me, looking shuffling through my results.
Speaker 4:Was it Rocky, jesus, texas Rocky? Oh man, and I was so excited because Corey Waltering was going to come out to Bandera that year and he ended up not coming. Um, but I was like thinking, oh yeah, hometown guy going to be in Texas when I'm running, and but they had changed the location like five days before the race took place, because, um, the park had been washed out, the trails washed out, so they moved it to Camp Eagle, texas. So, instead of being obviously where it was, the location was over two hours away, and, it being a golden ticket race, so many people lost their hotel reservations, you know, because you can't stay two or three hours away with your family and then get up and drive to the race. So it really ticked off a lot of people. But what are they going to do, though? I mean flood, the flood, right, yeah, and that's out of their control.
Speaker 4:In my eyes, they moved it. They were still able to have it. It was tough. It was what made it tough. Oh my gosh, the rocks, the, the scrambling.
Speaker 4:And you know the thing is you can look at elevation on a chart and say, oh, it's the same as this or it's not as bad as that, but unless you are actually on that terrain and slipping and sliding and scrambling, you have no idea. There's no comparison. Andrea is listening going. Thank you right now. Yeah, because she has been getting some slack from people back home. I won't call your name out for saying well, it's not as hard as here, it's got the same elevation. So they're telling her after she says finishes something. Well, why are you saying it's so hard? Does the same elevation is Pottawatomie? These are people who've never been out to Texas, who've never seen those rocks. Yeah, They don't understand this. It's the same elevation but, like Keith said, shark bites. It's just constantly like a flat rock. We were.
Speaker 4:I was showing you videos of where we were on it. You know it's. It's that constant. You're twisting your ankle, yeah, and every step, yeah, and you're. You don't have steady grounding underneath you, or or what's the word I want to put it And I get the humidity here, but it's times 10 there.
Speaker 4:So, yeah, it was really bad when I was there just recently and I was like holy shit And the weather was decent. It was nice and cool, unseasonally cool when I was there And I'm like, imagine that I just have shocker. Yeah, i go to Texas and everything goes, but it was still just terribly humid in there. And my shirt I was trying to explain to Andrew I'm a heavy sweater and she was laughing at my shirt was at one part of my butt but by the time it was almost it was covering my shorts. It was that heavy with sweat, soaked, just soaked. Yeah, i'm like I'm not kidding. When I am heavy sweater, i I pretty much all the time I was wearing my shorts I pretty much all my fluids were just going in and onto my shirt. Like it's just that bad. But yeah, yeah, it's um. People don't get the train if they've not traveled and been outside of the this the Midwest.
Speaker 4:It was rough So that one I had been having a lot of. I did, i did, and for that one um, you know, stress can cause your body to do crazy things. So I was in the GI clinic. A lot um had issues going on. They couldn't figure out. They were doing all these tests and I was told that I was going to have to have a colostomy. So after this race, that's what I was looking at was a colostomy. So I ran this race and didn't. Terrifying news.
Speaker 2:I've forgotten that before.
Speaker 4:Did not quit because I thought you know, this is it, I'm, this is my last race. It wouldn't be your last race. You can still race with that. I'm not going to be. I'm going to sweat the damn thing off. Yeah, i know, really. Yeah, i know. I thought about, like how am I going to run with this bag? I'm a nurse, who am I kidding? Yeah, yeah. So I just made it through um, thinking that my body's not going to be the same, Right, you know, after February, um things are going to change, But, um, I don't know.
Speaker 4:you change your life and lose the stress and things change. So I mean back to the way they should be. So no, in case you're wondering, i don't have a colostomy. If you want, i call it no shit bag. Yeah, no, i was. I had gotten fitted for one. You have to get fitted for one, right?
Speaker 4:That's that's no shit. That's no shit And it's terrible. When you're going in and they're like where do you want it? on your left side and your right side, i'm like neither. I mean, i was such a, probably a bitch to them And I'm like I don't want this, i don't want this, i don't want And like well, you have to wear jeans when you go in and get fitted, because it's they got to decide where they're going to, how it's going to fit in your jeans.
Speaker 4:You know, i turn around and point to my butthole.
Speaker 2:I'm saying I want it there I want it there. People are like what in the world?
Speaker 4:And so, whatever, they mark you and then they put a piece of tape over, so the doctor knows where to put it. And I'm like I looked down at that and just, i mean I just sobbed And I was like, no, so when I went in for my cancer surgery, the very first thing I did when I came to is I looked. You know you should ask like did you get all the cancer out? Am I going to be okay?
Speaker 2:I looked at the nurse and I said do I have a shit bag? And so when they brought me into recovery, like how she do it, and the nurse said I'm not lying when I say this And I quote the first words that came out of her mouth were do I have a shit bag? And Scott goes oh, she's doing good, that's my wife.
Speaker 4:Sorry to those who have one. I don't know how you do it, but oh, thank God my cancer did not get win that time.
Speaker 3:Was your? was Bandera the one that you went to with your brother? Yes, and he lived down in that area. Yeah, everything Okay.
Speaker 4:He um great story about my brother. He did his first 5k with me. So the Chicago marathon was the same weekend as the San Antonio marathon every year. Well, like I'm going to do Chicago, i'd rather go to the warm weather in San Antonio. So he's going to do a 5k and he's like what if I get thirsty? Well, they have Gatorade set out at every mile. And he says so I can just grab as much Gatorade as I want and I can just drink it. And I don't. How do I pay for it? Well, it's in here recently. It's in your race entry fee. I can drink as much as I want. You do that, you drink as much as you want. And I was so excited.
Speaker 4:Micolob ultra had just come out. Then it was the runners beer. And I was so excited because there was going to be a Micolob ultra like blow up tent at the finish at the Alamo dome. You know can't wait to have a beer. And he's like you're going to have a beer in the morning. And I go, you try running 26 miles and see if you want a beer. Afterwards I come in after the marathon. They're deflating it. I see it just deflating in front of me And he comes stumbling over. You're right, that beer is really good after a run.
Speaker 4:Oh my gosh. So he started running there and then I would go down and do runs. They have so many cool runs in that area, but it's I mean.
Speaker 1:Does he still?
Speaker 4:run Not really, But we did the San Antonio marathon so many times that I got to know, okay, we're going to turn this corner and these cool people are going to have, you know, a beer station set up in their front yard. You know, it was just. yeah, it was really cool. That's a fun event.
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Speaker 4:Thank you both foot socks, All right. Amber Blumhoff has a question.
Speaker 2:What is the biggest mistake you've made while doing an ultra? What?
Speaker 4:would you have done differently? Getting inside my head That, and then also, like I mentioned, bringing somebody who's not all in. You know if you've got somebody there who's cold or distracted, or yeah?
Speaker 2:yeah, it was so funny because Donna Jasper said no questions, just a comment. It's privilege being your friend and soul sister.
Speaker 4:Michelle. But then, but then, oh wait, thought of one, if not too late. Best running memory. Best running memory Marquette, Marquette 50K. Have to check my notes to see. Maybe that was two years ago. All of the Yetis were out at Leadville and I made it in. I was on a waiting list, I think, and made it into Marquette.
Speaker 2:That's really hard right.
Speaker 4:Yes, there is no more waiting list. By the way, if you are not registered on the day, you're not in. There's a new race director. It was her first time that year and somebody saw I think it was Brian Drendle saw that I was registered, reached out to me and was like yep, you're hanging with us. We got you. So it was Christina Gloria Terry Lund. Oh my gosh, i know I'm forgetting someone else, was it Jessica? and Brian Carroll Maureen was there and they just like took me in like I was a coyote and I had dinner with them.
Speaker 4:The night before I stayed in the primitive campground. I had well with big Agnes. You know I've got big Agnes. She's great. She goes everywhere with me. She's like two minutes set up. What's big Agnes, your tent? She's my ultralight tent, yeah.
Speaker 4:She's oh, she's great, She's got lights. How do you sleep? Like I have a sleeping pad underneath, i'd be like someone's calling on me. No, no, i mean, she's beautiful, she's got nets, a little bit of lights, she's great, but there was no plumbing, you're right. So I had to bring my own water, sleeping on the ground, and then somebody in the camp Have to be and we had the porta-potties. Oh, okay, so I had the porta-potties, but it's all runners that were there. So next to me was a runner and, like her guy, and he was drunk, like taking his glass bottles and throwing them in the trash can, and it was. It was a wild night for him. And finally somebody went over and was like, hey, knock it off.
Speaker 4:So it was weird, it's just things that you don't do when you're in a campground full of runners. You just we go to bed early. You know our quiet. Next question Yeah, we'll move on. Yep, so Amber Blumpoff has another one.
Speaker 3:What is the best advice you've gotten from someone?
Speaker 2:about doing ultras. So what's the best advice you've gotten from?
Speaker 4:someone Wise words of wisdom. You're like, yeah, surround yourself with great Pacers and crew.
Speaker 4:I mean really So important. When I did the Hennepin 100, i had five wonderful people who lied to me about my time. They told me I was going slower than I really was and that I needed to pick it up and, oh gosh, you got to really move. Thanks, jeremy Stats, michael Horro Brenda and I. Michael Horro Brenda was my first Pacer and she was so cute. She had no clue, she was just cute. She didn't know to lie to me, basically.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay.
Speaker 4:And Rick Rogers. Rick took me like 20 miles. I think they'd want somebody to lie to me like that, so I'd go faster.
Speaker 1:They did, they totally did.
Speaker 4:Yeah, liars, all right. Lynn Tianson has a bunch of questions. Oh gosh, i love me some. Lynn, okay. Favorite race What is your favorite race? Favorite race, marquette Okay. Hardest race Bandera Okay. Dream race Hurt 100, hawaii.
Speaker 2:Favorite ultra food.
Speaker 4:Um, I made this up there called Grand Canyon's because when I was on the girls trip, Morgan, my friend Liz, or my cousin Liz, her friend Morgan um told us about this treat. It's a tortilla, Nutella, banana, wrap it up, And she didn't have a name for it. And I'm like, well, we're going to see the Grand Canyon, So let's just call them Grand Canyon's, Okay. And then she says I echo what Donna says. and Michelle is such a wonderful soul sister, always kind and supportive.
Speaker 2:Oh, thank you, Thanks Lynn.
Speaker 4:Yeah. And then, uh, jerry says you haven't forgotten my question, have you?
Speaker 2:Which resulted in a text message of yes, I totally have, So I text him and here we go.
Speaker 4:Okay, jerry's question. Right, jerry's question. All right, let's hear it. At the end of a long run, when you are mentally and physically exhausted, who would you want with you? Because you know that they would get you to the finish line, and why, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:So we're talking one person, that's going to get you to the finish line.
Speaker 2:Yeah, That last pacer who's going to pull you to the end My best friend Dawn.
Speaker 4:Oh, why Mace Britt? Because I've never let her quit, so she won't let me quit. Payback's a bit chump, oh God, oh, yes, yep, All right, i like it. I've got another one. Oh man, stinking Instagram. I didn't check Instagram, i know you did. Oh, dang it, ice pick. Ooh, we got some ice pick. What is the hardest obstacle you've ever dealt with in a race Box? Probably.
Speaker 1:Bandera.
Speaker 4:Yeah, Bandera definitely Rocks. What is your favorite thing for recovery Rest?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 4:It really feels good to see Lauren at Richel's chiropractic Get an adjustment Grastening Who doesn't love grastening But rolling out, really Getting on the foam roller and You're picking to yoga too. I am, yeah, yep, you're a yoga instructor, are you not? I am certified, i just don't teach. I just haven't found the right audience. I'm kidding, that's a joke.
Speaker 2:I say that about coaching. I get some athletes and I'm like, are we done now? Great Goodbye.
Speaker 4:No. I think I just I haven't, i don't know, since I've been certified. That was like two years ago and I haven't had the self-confidence in the past two years to really start teaching.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:That's the biggest challenge they save with everyone is the confidence to be like and the responsibility of taking it on. for somebody like, let me teach you Yeah.
Speaker 3:You'd be great at it. You should start.
Speaker 4:I've been a nurse for 24 years, so I haven't had a problem telling people what to do, but just yourself, yeah.
Speaker 1:So, you're doing great, exactly Yeah.
Speaker 4:All right, i have a big in Ready.
Speaker 1:All right.
Speaker 4:Do you feel ultra running has changed you as a person, and how has a sport shaped your perspective on life?
Speaker 3:That is a deep question.
Speaker 4:Is that a?
Speaker 1:Jerry's question Ask that.
Speaker 2:That's me.
Speaker 4:That is a super deep question. Thank you, okay. Has it changed me as a person? Yes, it has made me lazy. Oh because I was a triathlete before. I was hardcore. Like in the gym, all the time There's some ultra runners who are hardcore telling you to shut up. I know, i know. So I mean that's As I'm training my asterite off right now, i'm kind of giving you the middle finger.
Speaker 3:I get it Just a little bit.
Speaker 4:That's why I'm not a great ultra runner, because I didn't stay in the gym like I did with triathlon. You should be in the gym, you should be doing weights I should I have no excuse. So, yeah, i got booped off the cliff and became lazy, i guess. And then? what was the next question?
Speaker 2:Have another shot? I'm just kidding, i did not have any shots.
Speaker 3:We do have shots in the fridge.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 4:How has the sport shaped your perspective on life? It has definitely helped me to surround myself with people who care about me, who are there for me, who check up on me, support me. If I mean my 50th birthday, are you kidding me?
Speaker 3:That was pretty awesome That day.
Speaker 4:it was so great because of all of you who showed up who shows up on a Tuesday from 6 am to 6 pm, all day long, to just give me some miles. All I wanted was time with people, to talk to them, get to know them, and it was pretty great. So, yeah, all of you.
Speaker 2:Nice.
Speaker 4:I like it. So the last question is really easy, but you kind of already answered when I said it. But do you have any advice? other advice besides? just show up to somebody who's starting and alter running. Yeah, i mean, show up, wear shoes that are comfortable for you. Do what feels good for you. Mm-hmm, really, running 10 miles feels good, do it. If running two miles feels good, do it Yeah.
Speaker 4:Don't prepare yourself to others. Whatever distance is your distance, do it And be with your people. Mm-hmm, find your people. Yeah, for sure, we're always taking on members if you're in this area. But if you don't have, if you're not in this area, there's groups. There are everywhere. Yeah, trail Sisters is one for the ladies. They're an online group.
Speaker 3:All right. So you had a tidbit about Annie that you wanted to share earlier. You mentioned it while we were getting drink.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay.
Speaker 4:There was a few tidbits, wasn't there? Just remember Annie and Betty. So, yes, I gave the the Bevy info. So, Annie, when we were in Arizona for the Analo Canyon now this isn't run. What happens in Arizona stays in Arizona thing right, because everyone's going to know It is Everyone's going to know. It's so fun, i sort of have to share it.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 4:Well, so one of the things I love about Ice Pick is that she's always down whatever. Yep, Yep, Sign me up.
Speaker 4:I mean she's, she's from Alaska so she's just cool, yeah, so, um, we had the run on Saturday. The next day is Sunday and we all had massages. Times were scattered. So the Airbnb. We were facing these red rocks, which we don't see here in Illinois, obviously. So I went to the grocery store, got some local brewed beer, airbnb. I'm like Annie, I'm going outside, i'm dragging a lawn chair out to the curb. You want to come play a game with me? And she's like sure, i like games, but you're going to have to bring a beer. It's called you honk We drink. Sounds like a good show game. She goes, i don't know how to play it. I'm like I'll teach you. So Annie comes out, then Lynn comes out, donna comes out, we're all playing You honk We drink. Thank you, paige, arizona, You were very kind, oh cool.
Speaker 4:We had people pulling over who actually already had flasks open in their vehicles saying drink with us. We had the firefighters pulling over flexing their muscles. It was just great. It was a great time, who knew? I guess we're going to page or next.
Speaker 3:Michelle will play that game just here. Yeah, oh, my gosh right outside. Stonebridge Hey wait a second I did.
Speaker 4:I was waving and somebody pulled in. Yeah, Hey you want to give a shout out to Doug. Thanks, doug, for being here. We got an angry eye like all right, well, i think that's it. Anything else I don't think. So. Thanks for having me. Thanks for being on. Yeah, All right, until next time. Bye, Bye, cheers.
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